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		<title>Celibacy / Open-Mindedness / Some Perils of Joining a Religion</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is an explanation of some of the perils of joining any particular (the main peril explained here being the loss of one&#8217;s ability to think objectively). I shall explain using the example of the celibacy requirement for Catholic priests (since I know someone who is considering becoming a priest, and am having a hard [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an explanation of some of the perils of joining any particular (<strong>the main peril explained here being the loss of one&#8217;s ability to think objectively</strong>).  I shall explain using the example of the celibacy requirement for Catholic priests (since I know someone who is considering becoming a priest, and am having a hard time using logical thinking to dissuade him)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve realized that it may be almost hopeless to have a discussion with any strong Catholic on whether priests should be celibate without first looking at the “bigger picture”.  Let me explain&#8230;</p>
<p>The reason I think it is almost hopeless is that <strong>if a Catholic agrees that the celibacy requirement is wrong, they are actually agreeing for FAR more than just that.</strong> If the Catholic Church (CC) is wrong about just this one thing, then that would mean that the CC is not the infallible, God-controlled entity that they had always assumed it was; it would mean not just that the celibacy requirement is wrong, but that their entire religion is actually not “the one”.  What a huge admission, especially if their whole life and identity are built up around being Catholic.</p>
<p>In other words, by conceding that the CC is (or may be) wrong about the celibacy issue, they would be opening up ALL the teachings of CC for questioning (real questioning; not just self-deceptive rationalization).  Basically, if a Catholic is actually open to the possibility that the celibacy requirement might be wrong, they are saying &#8220;I’m not sure about the rightness of <span id="lw_1212725378_0" class="yshortcuts" style="border-bottom: 1px dashed #0066cc; cursor: pointer;">Catholicism</span> anymore.&#8221;  Therefore they have to keep their truly-objectively-thinking minds completely shut down.</p>
<p>I think that <strong>unfortunately when someone joins a particular religion, they usually close their eyes to everything else and shut down their ability to think objectively.</strong> They don’t think they’ve lost their ability to think objectively; they think they’re still doing it; but really they’re just going through whatever thought processes it takes to convince themselves that everything else about their chosen religion is right.  <strong>They’ll start rationalizing the most ludicrous things into validity.</strong> I&#8217;ve seen this type of irrational rationalizing from people of all different religions.</p>
<p>Some religions do have far more ludicrosity than Catholicism in my opinion, although I think Catholicism has its share also (examples are outside the scope of this post).</p>
<p>I think that when considering religious issues, religious people usually do not start from the perspective of &#8220;Here is an idea.  Let’s see if we can figure out if it is true / sensible.&#8221;  Instead, they start from the perspective of &#8220;Here is an idea.  Our religion says it is true, and therefore it is true.  Let’s see if we can figure out how we can come to understand / explain that this is true.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, that about summarizes it.  I hope you get the idea.</p>
<p><strong>Disclaimer #1:</strong> I don’t actually think that Catholicism is bad overall.  In fact, I think that if more people were strongly Catholic the world would probably be a much better place, because I think most of what the CC teaches is good stuff, and not harmful.  But when it comes to the teachings that I think ARE harmful, I think that speaking up is important.</p>
<p><strong> Disclaimer #2:</strong> I think that my own mind is also probably very closed in many ways for various reasons, and I&#8217;m sure I am far from perfect when it comes to objective thinking myself, although like everyone I like to think that I succeed once in a while.</p>
<p>I welcome any comments below&#8230;</p>
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